Saturday, December 10, 2016

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Il magistero presente ha fatto un grave errore filosofica

Muller-Francis

Luis Ladaria Ferrer 04032011SELADARIAFERRER
Chiedi queste quattro domande e  la casa filosofica e teologica di magistero contemporaneo crollerà.
1.Dal punto di vista filosofico sul un catecumeno che desidera ricevere il battesimo di acqua, ma muore prima che possa ricevere cio è una caso ipotetico per noi?
La mia risposta è Si. E un caso ipotetico.
Sarebbe ipotetica per noi e nota solo a Dio.
2.Allora se qualcuno dice che questo caso del catecumeno è fisicamente visibile nel 2016 e personalmente noto a noi, allora questo sarebbe un falso ragionamento.? La mia risposta è Si. 
E un falso ragionamento. E irrazionale.
3.Questo viola il Principio di Non Contradizione. Se qualcuno ha detto che questo caso era visibile nei tempi attuali, ed è stato personalmente conosciuto?
La mia risposta Sì.
Non puo che qualcuno invisibile è visible.Non puo  dedurre che qualcuno che non esiste c'è sulla terra e conosciuto.Non posso dire assume che qualcuno che non è concreto e tangibile sia de facto e reale nel presente tempo  e spazio.
4.Cosi anche in passato questo caso di un catecumeno e ipotetico per le persone in quel tempo, non era fisicamente visibile e conosciuto in casi personali?
La mia risposta è sì.
Non avrebbe potuto fisicamente visto questo catecumeno salvato, in cielo né in terra.
 DUE QUESTIONI
Così qui sono le ultime due domande che dimostrano che cattiva teologia del magistero si basa sulla cattiva filosofia.
1) Conosciamo personalmente i morti ora salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile, una buona coscienza (LG 16), ecc; possiamo vederli, loro  sono fisicamente visibile a noi nel 2016?
La mia risposta è che non possiamo vederli. Loro non sono fisicamente visibili e personalmente conosciuto nel nostro tempo e nello spazio.
 2) Dal momento che non conosciamo nessuno di questi casi, nella vita reale, non sono visibili per noi, non ci sono noti eccezioni alla interpretazione literale del dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus o Ad Gentes 7, che dice 'tutti' bisogna 'la fede e il battesimo' per la salvezza?
 La mia risposta è che non sono eccezioni al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Non erano mai eccezioni in passato or presente.Il Magistero a Roma ha fatto un errore nella Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949. -Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 10, 2016

The present magisterium has made a major philosophical mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-present-magisterium-has-made-major.html


Scholars supporting four cardinals in major philosophical mistake

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The 23 Scholars who have signed a Statement in support of the four cardinals and the Dubbia like the present magisterium have made a major philosophical mistake.They include Dr.Joseph Shaw a professor of philosophy.
Like the four cardinals the Catholic scholars have overlooked an error which would be obvious to a school boy or a non Catholic who is not educated.
As I mentioned in a previous blog post the following four errors are made by the present magisterium.
They are also made by the four cardinals and the 23 scholars who support them.
1.From the philosophical point of view a catechumen who desires to receive the baptism of water but dies before he can receive it, is a hypothetical case for us?
My answer is YES.It is a hypothetical case.
The scholars and the cardinals infer that it is not a hypothetical case, for them.It is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This was the theological position of the Letter of the Holy Office 194 9 which they all support. The error of the Letter was based on this philosophical reasoning.
2.So if someone says that this case of the catechumen is physically visible in 2016 and personally known to us then this would be false reasoning.? My answer is YES.
The cardinals and scholars over looked Vatican Council II(AG 7 and LG 14) making this same error.Vatican Council II mentions the case of the catechumen and places it along with orthodox text which says all need faith and baptism for salvation, the Church is necessary for salvation.
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3.Would it violate the Principle of Non Contrradiction if someone said this case was visible in the present times, and was personally known?
My answer Yes.
So we have cardinals and scholars violating the Principle of Non Contradiction.Then they act as if all is normal.
The violate the Principle of Non Contradiction when they assume someone  invisible is visible.They infer that someone who does not exist on earth actually exists and is known.Someone  who is not concrete and tangible it is assumed to be defacto and real in present time and space and is an example of salvation without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
4.Similarly this case of a catechumen in the past too would be hypothetical for the people of that time, since it cannot be physically visible and known in personal cases?
My answer is YES.
Yet some of the traditionalists assume that there is a St. Emerentiana in Heaven with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.This is  as if someone saw her physically in Heaven.Or it is as if the Church has made an official pronouncement that she went to Heaven without the baptism of water.It is made to appear that this was personally known to someone in the Catholic Church and so this announcement was made.

TWO QUESTIONS  TRADITIONALISTS,SEDEVACANTISTS DO NOT ANSWER
1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2016 ?
My answer is that they we cannot see them. They are not physically visible and personally known in our time and space.
 The cardinals, including the four mentioned here, will not answer or broach this question.
2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible for us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation?   My answer is that they are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus . They were never exceptions in the first place. Rome made a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
However the new theology of the four cardinals and the 23 scholars is based upon this error and they do not want to talk about it or admit it.
-Lionel Andrades

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 DECEMBER 10, 2016

The present magisterium has made a major philosophical mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-present-magisterium-has-made-major.html


DECEMBER 10, 2016

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is a philosophy which interprets invisible persons as being visible and so a non traditional conclusion is created

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-source-of-present-arian-like-heresy.html

La fonte del presente ariana tipo eresia in tutta la Chiesa è una filosofia che interpreta persone invisibili come essere visibili e quindi si crea una conclusione non tradizionale.



La fonte del presente ariana tipo eresia in tutta la Chiesa è una filosofia che interpreta persone invisibili come essere visibili e quindi si crea una conclusione non tradizionale.
La fonte del presente eresia in tutta la Chiesa è dovuto ai seguenti punti.
1.Respingeil battesimo di desiderio ecc, come essere invisibile e noto solo a Dio.
2.Si presuppone che il battesimo di desiderio e di essere salvato  nell'ignoranza invincibile si riferisce ai casi noti nei tempi presenti.
3.In principio assumendo casi ipotetici del battesimo di desiderio ecc sono oggettivamente visibili nei tempi presenti e quindi interpretare il Concilio Vaticano II con questa irrazionalità.
4.Essere inconsapevoli di questo errore nella Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949 dal magistero. La Lettera assumere il battesimo di desiderio si riferisce a persone visibile invece di visibili. E 'stato poi ripetuto nel Concilio Vaticano II dai Padri conciliari.
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Quando questo errore viene corretto, ed è semplice da correggere, allora questa eresia come in tempi ariana, nella Chiesa cattolica, un tipo di scisma per l'arcivescovo Athanasius Schneider, conclude.
L'errore deve essere identificato nella Documenti della Chiesa, in particolare il Concilio Vaticano II.Documenti magisteriali hanno bisogno di essere reinterpretato
Invisible Lumen Gentium 16, Lumen Gentium 8, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aeatte 2 ecc devono essere identificati come solo invisibile nel 2016.Il battesimo di desiderio e di essere salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile nella Lettera del Sant'Uffizio 1949 non devono essere considerate casi espliciti e oggettivi in presente  tempo e spazio.
-Lionel Andrades


DECEMBER 10, 2016

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is a philosophy which interprets invisible persons as being visible and so a non traditional conclusion is created

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-source-of-present-arian-like-heresy.html

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is a philosophy which interprets invisible persons as being visible and so a non traditional conclusion is created

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is due to the following points.
1.Rejecting the baptism of desire etc as being invisible and known only to God.
2.Assuming that the baptism of desire and being saved in in invincible ignorance refers to known cases in the present times.
3.In principle assuming hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire etc are objectively visible in the present times and then interpreting Vatican Council II with this irrationality.
4.Being unaware of this error of assuming the baptism of desire refers to invisible instead of visible cases was made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 by the magisterium. It was then repeated in Vatican Council II by the Council Fathers.
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Once this error is corrected, and it is simple to correct it, then this Arian-like heresy in the Catholic Church, a type of schism for Archbishop Athanasius Schneider, ends.
The error has to be identified and then Church documents, especially Vatican Council II, be re-interpreted.Invisible cases of LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc must be identified as being invisible only in 2016.The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 must not be considered explicit and objective cases in our time and space.
-Lionel Andrades

The present magisterium has made a major philosophical mistake

Muller-Francis

Luis Ladaria Ferrer 04032011SELADARIAFERRER
Ask these four questions and the entire philosophical and theological house of cards being supported by the contemporary magisterium comes down.
1.From the philosophical point of view a catechumen desires to receive the baptism of water but he dies before he can receive it.This is a hypothetical case for us?
My answer is YES.It is a hypothetical case.
It would be hypothetical for us and known only to God.
2.So if someone says that this case of the catechumen is physically visible in 2016 and personally known to us then this would be false reasoning.? My answer is YES.
3.Would it violate the Principle of Non Contrradiction if someone said this case was visible in the present times, and was personally known?
My answer Yes.
Since it is being assumed that something invisible is visible.It is being inferred that someone who does not exist is there on earth and known, someone who is not concrete and tangible it is assumed to be defacto and real in present time and space.
4.Similarly this case of a catechumen in the past too would be hypothetical for the people of that time, since it cannot be physically visible and known in personal cases?
My answer is YES.
No could have physically seen this catechumen saved, in Heaven or on earth.
 FINAL TWO QUESTIONS
So here are the final two questions which show that magisterium's bad theology is based on bad philosophy. 
1) Do we personally know the dead now saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2016 ?
My answer is that they we cannot see them. They are not physically visible and personally known in our time and space.

 
2) Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible for us, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation ?   My answer is that they are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus . They were never exceptions in the first place. Rome made a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. -Lionel Andrades

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October 3, 2016

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/so-we-have-choice-there-now-are-two.html

June 8, 2016

Muller, Di Noia and Fellay made an objective mistake : hypothetical cases are assumed to be explicit

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/muller-di-noia-and-fellay-made_8.html
 
 
February 19, 2016

Their interpretation cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit.Since the Holy Spirit cannot teach an irrationality nor teach something new, which is a break with the old magisterium of the Catholic Church.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/their-interpretation-cannot-be.html


January 18, 2016

Pope Francis and Cardinal Muller interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with irrationality : manifest heresy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller_18.html


January 16, 2016
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller.html
 

September 8, 2015
The present Magisterium supports the political Left on doctrine and has also made a factual mistake
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/the-present-magisterium-supports.html

Friday, December 9, 2016

After two rabbis visited Vatican offices the Catholic Church has changed traditional teachings on ecumenism, outside the Church no salvation, Mission: Sandra Mazzolini promotes the new ecumenism and the new ecclesiology


Two liberal rabbis, Segni and Lara, visited the Pontifical Urbaniana University , and threatened the Rector and Faculty. They were told that they had to give up mission.Every one was made aware of anti-semitism laws enacted by the Jewish Left.
Then Rabbi Segni accompanied by the San Egido political leader and the Rector of the Urbaniana University addressed members of the B'nai Brith, Italy.It reportedly  is a Masonic organisation and is supported by the Jewish Anti Defamation League.
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Since then the Vatican has decided to do mission along with other Christian communities this is the practical new ecumenism. The doctrinal new ecumenism is based on the baptism of desire being a visible exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.All do not need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation said ecclesiastical masonry in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
So doctrinally and practically we have a new ecumenism which is not being protested against by the Jewish Left. They are satisfied.
Rabbi Segni has said recently that Pope Francis supports them and is against the 'extremists'.The extremists are Catholics who affirm traditional doctrines of the Church.1
Sandra Mazzolini a liberal professer of ecclesiology  at the Urbaniana Pontifical University Rome is the coordinator of an ecumenical program over 2016-2017  in which Christians from the different churches do mission together.


Sandra Mazzolini has written a book in Italian in which she implies non Catholics are de facto saved with the baptism of desire and being in invincible ignorance. These cases it is implied are known to us in the present times. So she assumes this contradicts the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of the centuries-old dogma.

She offers a course for students at the Urbaniana where she teaches that the dogma extra eccleisam nulla salus has ‘developed’. This claim is made in the Urbaniana University Handbook (Kalendarium).According to the University Handbook she will conduct a seminar on ‘The development and interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (MLT 3005 3 credits Second Semester Lo sviluppo e interpretazione dell ‘Extra ecclesiam nulla salus’). There are other courses too which she has been permitted to teach as a lecturer in the department of missiology.
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It has ‘developed’ for her in Vatican Council II as it has for the Urbaniana Rector, since Vatican Council II says non Catholics could be saved in invincible ignorance with a good conscience, by the Word of God( AG 11), in partial communion with the Church.(UR 3) etc.These are all defacto known cases in present the present times( 2016-17) for Mazzolini. So they are explicit exceptions to the need for all to be incorporated into the Church as members.This strange theology was approved by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Kasper.

So the fantasy theoloy, the new theology which she teaches is approved by the two popes and the Jewish Left rabbis associated with the Chief Rabbinate of Israel.

It is the same at other pontifical universities in Rome.
After the visit of the two rabbis the Catholic Church has changed traditional teachings on ecumenism, outside the Church no salvation, Mission,the need for Jews to convert to avoid Hell etc.-Lionel Andrades
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December 19, 2009


SANDRA MAZZOLINI ECCLESIOLOGY PROF.URBANIANA UNIVERSITY REJECTS CATHOLIC DOGMA AND VATICAN COUNCIL II : EDINBURGH 2010
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2009/12/professor-of-ecclesiology-at-urbaniana.html

December 19, 2009
EDINBURGH 2010 IS CONTRARY TO VATICAN COUNCIL II h
ttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2009/12/edinburgh-2010-is-contrary-to-vatican.html

October 13, 2010
SANDRA MAZZOLINI TO TEACH HERESY AT URBANIANA PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITY ROME IN NEW ACADEMIC YEAR
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2010/10/sandra-mazzolini-to-teach-heresy-at.html#links
July 14, 2013
Catholic universities and organisations are misrepresenting the truth http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/07/catholic-universities-and-organisations.html